Mike,

>>For example... I just love to look at flowers. It simply amazes me that all those different color can come out of the same color dirt! <g>
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>Really? Considering that any color of flower you can think of has existed at one point, and that the survival of a flower depends on how well it can be pollinated by insects, and that only the brightest flowers that attract the most insects will leave the most or any decsendents, it shouldn't be difficult to peice together.

LOL!

I wonder how many seminars those flowers went to to decide what colors they should all use. If you look carefully many of these features require intelligence. Intelligence far beyond that of the flower. Not only that you presume outside influence.

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>>And where are the 'smell rocks' ? <bg> Sure, I know that there are scientific reasons for how and where the colors and smells come from but that they do is what amazes me even more! Wow! Life!!
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>YEs, I totally agree. Natural Selection is one of the most amazing concepts I've been able to get my mind around.

So.. Demonstrate for me one inter-species bit of evidence. That is, (in so many words) show me a cat-dog. Or a fish-bird. Or even a monkey-man. There is absolutely no inter-species evidence whatsoever. Sure, lots of guesses and so forth but how is it that a worm has a more complex DNA structure than man. Are worms more evolved? <g>

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>>I just think it's better to so do in harmony with God, not fighting Him.
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>Well, I will not fight somethign that I don't know exists or not. HOwever, I do know that I will fight a meme, a virus of the mind. That is something very very real regardless of God's existence.
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>>Sure.. I can see where you're coming from easily. I've been there and found it dismal.
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>Then you haven't been there :-)

Well, yes, I have.

Let me just say that there's a huge difference between happiness and joy. <s>

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>>>What created God.
>>*chuckle*
>>Which leads me to reassert that you need to do a little more reading. <g>
>>God is self-existent.
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>More reading? I can read that all I want, dude. I've read it. It was the same dead end every time. I'm sorry, the more I read it won't make it any more true.
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>>>>Define truth - and how you know it to be true.
>>>PLease explain where you are going or answer the question. I cannot tell whether you are misleading the jury or presuming facts not in evidence.
>>No.. Just define the term. You can do that can you not?
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>No I cannot. Once again, is this a non sequitr? Are you going to change the subject once I admit this. You need to think long and hard about the validity of the logic you're about to pull.

No, but if you cannot define truth how then can you ever know something is true?

Think about it a little. <g>

No matter what you may think is true if you cannot define truth then nothing can be defined as such.

IOW, the mere existence of truth must be true <g> if anything is to be defined either as true or not true.

It's kind of like making the assertion of the absolute truth, "There are no absolute truths." <g>

Not.. <bg>

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>>I think you're ducking the question personally. <s>
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>Actually, I'll admit any day. I think you're just changing the subject/

*shrug*