Maybe instead of labels, you might want to try creating bmp's with the words and the size you want; then set the buttons' picture property. Seems like it might be a bit less messy without extra overlapping controls.

Alan

>Thanks Alan, I see how this works now - it only splits the words correctly when autosize is on, unfortunately I need to keep control of the button widths.
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>Thanks anyway, I will have to muck around with labels on top.