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16/08/2002 14:11:56
 
 
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16/08/2002 00:20:17
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
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Dragan,


>>Dragan
>>
>>>>Whereas the declaration of non-religious people as "less human" is heavily supported and is not scoffing?<<
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>>I see. So your interpretations of comments of a single person in this forum, balance/justify your labelling of a whole community just because he is part of it.
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>Where did you find the "labeling of the whole community"? The above qoute applies only to those who recognize themselves in it. I've often been a part of a community which was blamed as a whole for something only few have done, and I don't want to do that to anyone. If this was somehow understood in that manner, my apologies.
>
>The above quote is also a cause for thinking; any generalization, any attempt to define what is human, civilized, cultured etc, carries in it some small seed of some potential segregation, and eventually racism. What are the people who don't fit the definition? I don't feel I should keep my mouth shut when I see such a pattern. If I am wrong at recognizing that seed where there's none of it, the better.
>
>>>>there was the petite-bourgeois, the patriarchal-provincial, the consumer society, the totalitarian tendencies in politics, the propaganda war (from within and from outside the country)... <<
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>>Was all this specially directed at you, or might others have received it as well?
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>I got my share, just like the others.
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>>Maybe even some of those you call "brainwashed"? Is it possible that they too analysed and rejected/accepted it?
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>Of course.
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>>So tell me again why "they" are brainwashed?
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>This is a linguistic matter. In my language, there's a very distinctive difference between perfected and imperfected (aka continuous) verbs. The perfected verbs describe a one-time or a finished action; the continuous describe a process or a lasting action. Example: "I studied the matter" can be said "prouèio sam predmet" and "prouèavao sam predmet". The meaning of the first is "I have done the study of the matter", while the meaning of the other is "I have studied the matter for a [unspecified] time".

I believe we call that the "present Perfect tense".

I walked. - past tense
I am walking - present perfect tense
I will walk - future tense

But English wasn't one of my enjoyable classes in school so I could be way off. <g>

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>The difference in this matter here is that when I said "brainwashed", I wish I could have used the imperfected form of the verb, but, alas, there's no such thing in English. So, let's rephrase it: "been exposed to brainwashing". I hope this phrase does it justice, not implying any specific length of time.
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>So they are "brainwashed" because they were exposed to it.

No kidding. So, you are a duck or a fish because you were exposed to water then? <g>

Or, you are a thief because you were exposed to thieves by watching about them or reading about them?

I think you have a very small opinion on the ability of others to think for themselves. Is this what communism or socialism taught? Or perhaps you're use of the english needs a boost?

> There are ways to brace oneself against it - in my case, it was the lucky circumstance of multiple attempts from many sides, which exposed their methods and their agendae. There are other ways as well.

Everyone should think and check the facts.
Best,


DD

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