>Jerry:
>As you might of heard there are legislators here in Calif. that are looking to move government to open source os and applications. Is there any similiar movement there? As a tax payer I think its definitly something worth pursuing.
>Mike

I haven't heard of any in government, although as a private citizen I push where & when I can. But the private sector is making moves.
JLK



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>>>Hi Mike,
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>>>>>We want people to upgrade to VFP, and we are promoting VFP via MSDN Subscrptions and will continue to do so. VFP works great with VS .NET, more and more VFP developers are using ASP.NET with VFP for example. MSDN Subscriptions is a great value for obtaining products and tools beyond VFP only. All my messages contain completely accurate and honest information. I'm sorry that you do not understand my messages. I have no reason or intent to explain business decisions.
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>>>>I don't wish to be argumentative, Ken, but your reply is a non-sequitur. You say you have "no reason or intent to explain business decisions", yet you offered a business justification to Gary Wynne's question as to how pushing MSDN Subscriptions helps to serve the interests of VFP. If I failed to understand your message, perhaps it is simply because it makes no sense.
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>>>Say, just a thought...
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>>>I can remember years ago when Hal Paulluk worked at Fox and he used to get thumped (vigorously <g>) all the time by those in the community who were concerned that Fox wasn't marketing the product as agressively as they should. Same for Glenn Hart, Janet Walker and so forth.
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>>>I'd bet that the Fox Team really is conflicted over all of this. I know I would be.
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>>>On one hand I'd be thrilled that folks like you care so deeply about the product so as to make my life so difficult with the constant badgering and on the other really tired of it as well. <g> I suppose I would just have to reach the point where I would tell you that I am comfortable that you feel the way that you do, that we (placing myself figuratively in the Fox Team) have concluded what we think is the best approach given the constraints we live within as a member of the greater Microsoft team, that I'm not going to publicly reveal my business strategies, we're doing the best we can and that no one knows what the future holds.
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>>>Life is a gamble. Ken has what is probably the toughest job on the Fox Team right now. Rather than beating him up constantly by bringing the same tired issues up again and again let's just do our best personally to promote the product through the quality of our work.
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>>>Microsoft has demonstrated their committment by working on version 8. Let's demonstrate ours by using those tools for our 'version 8'.
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>>>Will VFP go away some day? Probably but I don't see that being any time soon. About the same for COBOL. <g> What about .NET? Same thing. Same for VB.
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>>I doubt that VFP will go away. Even DOS hasn't gone away. We're still running FP 2.5 apps because they do exactly what we want them to do and they are light and VERY fast. "Upgrading" them to VFP would be a waste of time and money.
>>What we are doing is upgrading many VFP apps to Oracle, so we can become platform independent ASAP.
>>jlk