This might be a bit of a stretch, but what the heck; I'll never know unless I ask. Is there anyone going to the Advisor Devcon that doesn't need the VFP 8 beta CD they're giving away (eg. you're already part of the private beta, multiple developers going, etc)? If so, if you're willing to part with it, I'd love to get it from you (I'll cover shipping, of course). I'm going to GLGDW but there hasn't been any mention of a VFP beta give away (besides, that's like a month and a half later...). You can drop me a private message, or e-mail me: paulm@rcs-solutions.com