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28/08/2002 22:38:49
Dragan Nedeljkovich (En ligne)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
 
 
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28/08/2002 21:13:15
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
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>Dragan
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>>>I may be tempted to believe this when the pontifice maxima's husband is allowed to be a heathen, and nobody inside the religion objects to this.<<
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>I see you are in the USA.
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>Can you be President? Not unless you were born in the USA.

I could probably be a president of some obscure club, but I figure you didn't think that would merit proper case.

>Presumably you would assert that the USA is not a free country or treads you down because it will not allow you to be President.

Oranges: laws one country makes about its electoral system, which are inalienable right of each country.

Lemons: statement about how Christianity has done more for liberation of women than many others did.

I am still unable to understand how you got these two mixed up.

The way Christianity (just like most any other religion as well) treats women is their own choice, and in that there may be some similarity between the two above; but saying that "Christianity has done more to liberate ladies than anything else I know" is just a provocation, which, IMO, required an equally provocative counter-provocation.

Democracy, IMO, begins at home. Just like I wouldn't trust any party to be really democratic if they didn't have internal democracy, I don't trust any institution to "have done much to liberate ladies" if it lacks a sufficient percentage of ladies in its top ranks. In case of Christianity, this percentage is zero. They can say whatever they want about liberation, but as long as they don't practice it inside their own organization, it's just hot air.

And this is not about women's liberation only: the example of the churches' interest in spouses confessionality is another way of limiting people's liberty. Last example of this, that I know, is that the Serbian Orthodox Church won't marry a couple unless they are both baptized in that confession, and their best men as well. You may well imagine what it does in a mixed community - your best friend may be of a completely different confession, or religion free, and he/she can't be your best man, short of joining this church.

back to same old

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