>> I also note that a certain *very* "pro-VFP" party also seems to have absented himself after a spat with JB. <<

If you mean Steve Black, my guess (only) is he has also been run off. As far as I am concerned we have now lost the voices of two of the most knowledgeable FoxPro developers in the world, which I consider regrettable regardless of the fact that they may have broken some rules or behaved childishly at times. I would rather have them here. If I want to tune out some of what they say, the more emotional stuff, I just tune it out.

>> Who knows, MF might let them back but IIWH I woundn't let somebody back if they refuse to acknowledge they did anything wrong. UT might be sued next time. <<

Sued?!?! Lord.

You say you want to nip the free speech argument in the bud, but IMO that's exactly what it is.

Nothing personal, you understand. Where are you these days? Back in NZ?

Mike