Hi Mike,

>>I think I am either not being clear enough or people just cannot get past their pre-conceived notions.
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>I can't get past this Bible Verse:

Gosh.. Sorry you have a brain-clog. <g>

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>1 Timothy 2:12-15
>"...suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithsstanding she shall be saved in childbearing."

Right. And, as I've suggested, oh about at least ten times now there are some cultural issues and so forth at work here as well as some basic doctrinal issues.

The problem I keep seeing here Mike is that this seems more of an excuse for you to rationalize your position than much of anything else. The only thing I see here would be a prohibition from having a woman pastor and absolutely nothing else.

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>>Christianity does not, never has, and simply would NOT teach, condone, encourage, or in any other way support the mistreatment, abuse, belittling, suppressing, dehumanizing or any other form of mistreatment against women.
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>Leviticus 20:16
>"And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast."

I see.. So then beastiality is good for society? I fear your moral compass is fatally broken of you believe this.

Let me ask you a question? Do you regularly drink poison?

I hardly think you do but we all seem to be wanting to excuse behavior that is equally deadly for societies. I can't force someone else to not drink poison if they so choose but I surely can assert that it would be deadly to so do. The same goes for beastiality. Historically, by the time a society has gotten to where it will tolerate this kind of moral behavior it's only a short period of time before that society has ceased to exist.

I'm glad to be on the side of the discussion that has a preserving affect and I'm not at all ashamed to assert that this is the case.

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>>They also do them in the name of Islam, Communism, and a whole host of other 'isms'.
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>"Whats that over there!"

You'll have to clarify your meaning here my friend.