Again I agree. However, I think SUN dropped the intel OS. I've read where SUN customers are upset. As far as Red Hat coming out with their own desktop - I think not. I did read that they changed the two window managers to act/respond the same way. This of course has the Linux people saying lots. Improving the desktop and application integration are my top requests. I'm not to sure I want the "do it my way or the highway" that Apple desktop has always had - but I might join the club.

John