Hi guys,
I think I have a very complex way to do it. ctod() does not seem to generate any errors of the date is bad. I can emulate the date field with an input mask of '99/99/9999' and then do a ctod() on that. If it's blank then it is not a good date. There is only one problem, I can't update the value of the field as I skip though records. The control source has to be the field value. I could get around that with a functon in the refresh method but that means I would have to change about 140 or so text boxes in my program. The only way I can see to do it is to have my date text box class create a 2nd text box on top of itself with the chr type field as the control source. The valid would work in the 2nd text box and the 1st box could update the 2nd on each refresh. I hope someone can find a better way though. Thanks for your thoughts guys.

John.

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>>I have a feeling John will be back on this thread <s>
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>After re-reading, I would have to agree <s>
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>Specially because CTOD() then will generate an error if a valid date was entered.