Hi Metin

>1- system menus does not appear when i use skins. i couldn't solve this.
Have you skinned the main form, then all will be looking wierd. I tried it and the toolbar and menu came above the caption.

>2- skin class runs my forms init section. i could solve this with remove which line runs my forms init section.
Yes even I had this problem, I guess I removed the call to the forms init()