Hi!

Ed, what I told does not means you're wrong :-) I did not made thorough tests to test all features of VFP8 if they're working under NT. Maybe, some other VFP EXE will fail without updated Shell components.

I just want to tell that it is almost impossible to tell just by test runs or by guessing. You're right in you point - only MS VFP team can tell what is needed for run-time.

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>>I just went to NT workstation where I had a successful run of VFP8 EXE. I tried to instantiate Shell.Application and... failed!
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>>You're right about shell components update, but seems this is not a case. I think there are certain other things required to install on NT workstation to get it work. Maybe a couple of them, include Shell, but how to tell for sure after above? <s>
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>Apparently, the Shell components aren't the issue here; maybe someone at MS could give us a clue about what critical OS resources need to be present to support VFP8. I'd assumed it was the Shell components because of their importance to things like DCOM and OLE support; obviously, I was wrong!
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>>>>Hi!
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>>>>Well, I did not experimented much, I just ran VFP8 beta EXE app on NT workstation and it ran very well. NT workstation is Windows NT4.0 SP6 with installed IE 6.0 there. During installing of IE6.0, as far as I know, components update is made. Is not it that components update that is essential for VFP8 run-times correct working? <s>
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>>>I suspect that the updated Shell controls were placed there by a prior installation of IE 4.01, with the Active Desktop components; later versions of IE did not update the shell. If you can instance Shell.Application, then IE 4.01 was added to your NT at some point in the past.
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>>>>>>The VFP8beta run-time applications are supported by MS for Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 or later, and Windows XP. As you can see Windows NT and Windows 95 are not on the list.
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>>>>>I've a suspicion that some versions of both Win95 and NT may be supportable in some cases, if the issue is with the updated Shell components that accompanied IE 4.01; applying IE 4.01 was the only way to get these shell components in place for NT and some versions of Win95, and rather than guarenteeing that you'd be able to run VFP8 apps under the runtime based on this dependency, MS might have decided to exclude the environments that were questionable from their active support. Someone will have to do a good deal of expoerimentation to see what things could be added to the environments that might allow them to be used; I'm planning to avoid putting up VFP8 apps on these platforms and take MS's word on it.
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>>>>>>>>This limitation is only for VFP8 development environment. VFP8 applications compiledby VFP8 and installed properly with all DLLs required for run-time works fine under Windows NT (though I did not tried it under W98, it should work there too).
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>>>>>>>OK.. now I'm confused.
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>>>>>>>I could've sworn there was this huge thread not so long ago that stated an EXE compiled in VFP8 would not run on Win95 and WinNT. Has my memory failed or have the OS requirements changed at some point? :)
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>>>>>>>Laterness,
>>>>>>>Jon