>It runs OK after giving a couple of error messages related to nonexistent properties which are created in the form load. I am guessing that the form is "activated" before it is fully instantiated. What do you think, Gary?

Hmm. Sounds odd. Just to try something, it sounds like the z-order of the datamanager container might have got out of wack on the form. Try the following. Open the form in the dev-env. Select the datamamanger container on the form. Then click the VFP "send to back" button to make the datamanger container first in the z-order, and then save the form.

Give that a try and see what happens.

HTH

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