>how to refresh forms at every 5 secondes without using a timer?
I agree with Rick Bean - the easiest way to do something every certain number of seconds is, precisely, using a Timer. Why search for a workaround, if the timer does exactly what you need?
Hilmar.
Difference in opinions hath cost many millions of lives: for instance, whether flesh be bread, or bread be flesh; whether whistling be a vice or a virtue; whether it be better to kiss a post, or throw it into the fire... (from Gulliver's Travels)