Bob,

>However, in the case of a pageframe control, it appears the controlid is stored in the pages array property of the pageframe object which is only available at runtime.
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>How do I access this property to reset these controlid's?

When you set security on a page frame control using the builder, it auto-magically adds an invisible PageSecurity control to each tab that has an iControlID property. You can find this control by using the Property Sheet.

Regards,