>In regards to your second question. Do you load your data in the INIT or LOAD of the form? I load all of my data in the LOAD of the form, that way when the objects are created in the INIT of the form, the data already exists. ControlSources don't like it if the data doesn't exist.

Technically, neither. :) I load an empty data object in the load. But that really doesn't have anything to do with my problem...

>I rarely use a special "ControlSource" property on containers, but when I do, the container object handles everything from there.

I don't like having to drill down into different parts of my container objects. I prefer a pseudo "black box".

Michelle