Unfortunately, many so-called "frameworks" are just simple code generators, even some on your list. Very few are like MM.NET that provide a rich hierarchy of classes for building all the layers or your app. So yes, you have to wade through a lot of junk to get to the gems.
>Yeah I've been there before - there are some ok .NET data tools, but I didn't see any other ones that were more like a framework.
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>>The motherload of .NET data tools:
http://groups.msn.com/DotNetPersistence/tools.msnw>>
>>Although I would add that most VFP developers will probably find Kevin's framework, training, and book to be the best way to move to .NET