Just as an a note for those MSDN Subscription memebers downloading VFP 8.0 release version. People should ignore the warning about MSDE on the VFP 8.0 download page on the MSDN Subscription web site. VFP 8.0 includes MSDE with SP3 which includes the security patch included, so there is no need to add it like the download page says. The text on that page will be removed soon since it doesn't apply to VFP 8.0. VFP 7.0 and VFP 8.0 beta version includes MSDE 2000 that doesn't include SP3 for MSDE, so it that service pack should be applied if MSDE from those versions are being used.