>The line lcTxt=lcTxt+.Controls(ln).Render() does not add the text returned by the render
>function, instead replaces lcTxt with the value returned. Thus loosing all the previously
>accumulated text in the string. This happens on the recusive call to the container Render
>function. This happens with or without the "with/Endwith" code.

What happens if you change it to lcTxt = "" + lcTxt + .Controls(ln).Render()?