Jim

I wanted 'abc ' to return a length of 4 and 'abc' to return a length of 3.
If they typed in a leading space, I also wanted that to be included in the lenth.

>Allam,
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>Your question is a but vague. If the user types abc into a textbox that has an inputmask of Replicate('X',30) then the length will be 30 or 3 depending how you check it.
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>lnLen = LEN(TRIM(Thisform.Text1.Value)) && 3
>lnLen = LEN(Thisform.Text1.Value) && 30
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>I used trim so that if the user enters " abc" the typed in spaces are counted.
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>What value doid you want to see as a result?