Jim,

Thanks for your research.
I have a 'bad feeling' about this one :(.

>>Jim
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>>I wanted 'abc ' to return a length of 4 and 'abc' to return a length of 3.
>>If they typed in a leading space, I also wanted that to be included in the lenth.
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>Allan,
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>I poked around a bit yesterday and as far as I can see you can get the length of the inputmask, or the length of the value without trailing spaces, but I could see any way to get the length to only include the trailing spaces that the user actually type. The only approach I can think of would be to build a textbox class that handled the issue for you. Probably a little code in the Keypress that updates a custom property used to count the charactyers typed by the user. That would give something like;
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>lnStringLen = Thisform.Text1.ValueLength
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>Where ValueLength is the custom property.