Sigh...I am going to have to store .lIsOkToSave to a var and control this way.

So much for encapsulation...

>Thanks for the reply, as I expected would be the case made no difference.
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>THIS.lIsOkToSave is a from property that is used elsewhere in another method to control whether the form save button gets enabled. What I am testing for is when this subform is loaded and canceled out of .lIsOkToSave is toggleing to yes. I only write to this property in another method THIS.mSetIsOkToSave() but yet somehow magically it is toggling here in the sub form.
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>The sub form is very simple, 4 methods, two lables and a list box. As you can see the form interogates the sub form to see what happened in the subform. The sub form absolutely does not talk to THISFORM. I have checked and triple checked.
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>??????