>David,
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>Thats not really true, Template support has always been in the plan along with things like deterministic destructors. The whole concept of generics was being talked about before the beta 1 release.
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>BTW. This concept is driven by C++ (as are Java and C# in general) so is there anything wrong with evolving this concept on both fronts?

Nothing wrong at all! I can't wait for generics, it'll be great. Yes, they've been talking about it since the beta. Talk of generics in Java goes way back to at least 1998: http://www.iis.ee.ic.ac.uk/~frank/surp99/report/caj97/

It was to be released in 1.4, but they delayed it until 1.5.

I think you can play with generics now in .NET if you download some stuff from Microsoft Research.

I think the competition between java and .net is great, it drives the whole process foreward. By the way, Microsoft as yet has no answer for JDO.