I never got a msg from you. I will create you a scenario that proves the speed of ODBC over native and get it up in a zip on our FTP server--just say the word and I'll get it there for you.

JR

>>One might argue that there may be some things about Crystal Reports that you may not have experienced. . . I wholeheartedly admit I'm in that same category, although I and my team have been supporting it since v.5!
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>>If I create the scenario and get it up to our web site for download, would you at least look at it, run the test both ways, and tell me if you concur?
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>Yes, I'll do that. However, I'll be out of town next week and will not be able to get to it until after that. I'll send you a private message with more complete contact info.