Add to that the missing record markers in grids and listboxes changing the current record on LostFocus to the last VISIBLE record in the lb at that time. Or buffer problems when you change a field in a grid and don't TAB in some direction before making the next change (or record deletion)! Where the (*&&(^%% is my copy of VFP5????? I'm wearing holes in the carpet and getting callouses on my fingers from redialing the mail order house! > >>I think you both have good points. I have found workarounds for most problems with grids, but there still exist confirmed bugs with no known (good) workarounds, such as scrollbar loss, and those pesky extra rows at the bottom of grids when there are enough rows of data to fill up the entire visual grid area. > >>Anyway, I use grids and like them, but there IS room for improvement, I guess that's my point. > > > >Well, this is something to wait for in VFP 5.0. Talking about grid problems, the biggest one I've faced so far was this listbox control inside of a grid which its display is freaking out sometimes when we click on this control to open the list. > > Hmmm...I guess that's not too surprising. I haven't tried listbox within grid, but from my experience, I would rank grid and listbox numbers 1 & 2 in order of buggy objects in VFP 3. Yes, let's hope 5.0 improves this. >