>OK, if you discover the red line around Baghdad that fills with gases and poisons as soon as you come close, I'll accept that this discovery and the "standard of proof" beforehand have equal credibility.

No one ever has said the Iraqis had to use WMDs during the war for that to be proof that they had them. When we find them, and I think we will, what will you say then?

>As for "America bashing"; get over it. You bellowed loudly about WMD early on, now you switch to torture etc and say it is "anti-American" to remind you of earlier claims. Eventually I'm sure somebody on Fox will make the same observation so you will know it is now true.

I still believe we will find WMDs. Remember, it has only been 3 weeks we have been in Iraq. What will you and the rest of the world say if we do find them?