>Visual "Phoenix"/"Phoenix"

Cool name Paul, but the rising from the dead is I think, a double edged sword. The nasty anti-fox prejudiced folk (not like us good PRO-fox prejudiced folk) would just continue to make jokes about "should have stayed dead".

I'd prefer a clean break - I know the comparison is overworked, but Turbo Pascal was getting tired until whizzo rebranding/reengineering. Over the years I've spoken with loads of folk who didnt know that Delphi was related to it...