>Thanks Tracy,
>Set Whinge ON
>The second idea I've heard before and it has all the finesse of a rampaging bull in a beauty parlour! :-). This Grid thing sucks. It needs a revamp (even with what's in 8). Columns have no Left property. Headers have no Height property (accessed from Grid HeaderHeight). Columns have no Height property. You could achieve some pretty amazing things if it was beefed up. No cell tooltips.... etc
>Set Whinge OFF
>Pete ! (Whew, that feels good)

Don't feel too good, just yet. < bg >

There are tooltips for grids, at the grid level, the column level, and the control within the column level. You just have to turn them on with the appropriate settings. To see tooltips, make sure you have the form's .ShowTips property enabled. To see a grid level tooltip, assign the Grid.ToolTipText some info, to see a column level, you set the Grid.ColumnX.ToolTipText, and to see the control's, you set it's .ToolTipText property and also make sure the column's .Sparse property is .F. or you won't see it.

And I'm not real sure what value a .Left property would have as it's the widths that are usually more important. And what good would a column Height property be? It's the remander after the Grid height has the header height and scrollbars subtracted. What else could it be? You can also set Row height, so what more do you need? About the only other need I see is to have a dynamic row height property, as it may be useful to have differing row heights depending on values.

This is all available in VFP8 as is (except dynamic row heights).