>When you layout a pageframe in the class designer it is always rendered in the
>live form approximately 5 pixels shorted. So to get the look you want in the live
>form you must make the pageframe longer in the class designer sometimes actually
>overlapping the controls below it. This makes it difficult to actually design the
>class visually because it does not look the same when rendered in the instance
>object.

I'm not seeing this, Simon: I just created a pgf class that was 100 by 200. When I dropped it onto a form and ran it, it was still 100 by 200. The Pages within the pgf were only 196 wide: I assume there's a 2 pixel border on each side.