More details Stephen (although I probably won't be able to help you if your problem is specific to MM, since I'm not using it).

You say it blows up ... ok, so what's the line of code, what's the error, etc.etc.etc.

Inquiring minds want to know. <g>

~~Bonnie

>I am getting caugth in editing a textbox that my last edit was only 4 chr wide. I now want to fix it to a len() of 8 and the actual server column in set as char(15).
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>I blow up when I am forcing the edit back into the ds so I can check for changes. If I leave it alone and let ds.SaveDataSet() do it's voodoo it's fine. User needs the changes loged so I'm stuck in what I'm doing for now.
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>Net.2003 MM Beta 9
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>TIA