After reading about all the bugs/problems with VFP8, I think that ms has made things difficult for everyone, including themselves, by adding features to vfp8 that have a complicated architecture, and thus some are unreliable from our perspective. Too many gotcha's. I would personally prefer more RISC-like enhancements to the product in terms of its programming language so I could do more low-level things (such as use _real_ data structures, better API integration, callback support, etc), and thus get at Windows core capabilities more easily. Does anybody else feel this way?