>::the programmer could USEEX() or SEEKEX()
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>Not trying to be snitty, so I hope it doesn't sound that way, but -- you can always roll your own! <g>

Thats true - but some seeds would be poppin for sure -besides, the fox team could engineer one at a lower level and higher quality:-).

But my gripe is broader - look at last months UT Mag - NET - NET _ NET _ SQl - SQL - SQL - nTier - nTier - nTier - I can see my self trying to convince a 5 node user that "we need to get SQL and spend lots of time writting geeky n-Tier objects"