>Hi Bob,
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>Thanks for the links.
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>>Of course there is Orca/Norpheme from the F1 Tech folks
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>I didn't know this. I checked out the link, but how do you tell it is affiliated with F1 Tech?

Cause I read the VFE forum and it came up. :) There is no mention of F1 on the web site, as you see.

BOb