>frmcontactslya is still the name of the form (checking the form row objname value)

Yes this looks OK..

>pgf is still the objname of the pageframe and it's parent is frmcontactslya
>page9 is the objname of a row with parent = frmcontactslya.pgf
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Not sure here - this class is subclassed and the pageframe is in the parent - in fact do you think that this might be the problem?

I will try a few things out tomorrow and let you know - thanks very much for your help...

>and the shape row occurs after the page9 row?
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>What happens if you just delete row 1671 will the class load?
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>Is the classlibrary really that big or has it just been a long while since you packed it?
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>Also before fiddling around very much with this classlib make sure you back it up to a safe place.
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>>Right - I have the following...
>>
>>Class = shp
>>Classloc = standard_classes.vcx
>>Baseclass = shape
>>Objname = Shp1
>>Parent = frmcontactslya.pgf.Page9
>>
>>all of which seem legal...