>>>>>>I have the following problem. (Buffering is 3 – Optimistic row buffering is on)
>>>>>>Sue enters a new record and locks it. Bill enters a new record and attempts also to RLOCK() but the lock fails.
>>>>>>I suspend Sue's process and browse the table. The record she inserted has moved up by one and she is now sitting on Bill's new record and has it locked.
>>>>>>I can reproduce this. Can anyone help with this?
>>>>>It'd be interesting to see a reproducing code.
>>>>>Why do you need an insert followed by a lock ? You say it's row buffered. It wouldn't go on to disk till you leave the record or explicitly tableupdate.
>>>>>You might be more comfortable with buffering 5.
>>>>>Cetin
>>>>To reproduce this all I need to do is to have 2 users try to insert at the same time.
>>>>I introduced locking because users were complaining that occasionally when 2 of them wereinserting at the same time that one will suddenly start editing the other's record.
>>>>In the above, I changed to table locking but get the same error, the only difference is that I do not see Bill's record in Sue's session.
>>>Table locking ? I meant buffering.
>>>Cetin
>>Sorry, I meant table buffering.
>Sorry then. I don't know of a way to get another buffered table's (in buffer) record unless I can switch to its workarea. Without being able to reproduce no idea.

George, I _have_ seen this before, and managed to trim it down to a very simple repro. Unfortunately, I can't figure out what that was. Can you post code that will show the behavior? It's been ticking me off since VFP3.