>i have been moving some of my applications to 8 and besides having to stick in that engineer behaviour thing which i don't like its all going well, but, and there always is a but, i could recreate this error first time. have you a service pack on vfp8 or just the ootb version?

There isn't a service pack for VFP8. Did you perhaps mean the VFP7 service pack? Yes, I've applied that one. (In general I apply every update as soon as I find out about it.)