>>Paul;
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>>I must agree with you. I advocate using a framework for a number of reasons and have said so for years. It is really a matter of bread and butter. I prefer an outstanding team of developers creating, maintaining and advancing the framework I use while I develop applications my users pay me for. If I have a question I have a source to go to for answers.
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>>If I did not use a framework my costs would be out of line with what a client can pay. To create my own framework leaves me in the position to resolve all issues that may occur from my framework. It is a wise decision to let a team of experts work for you and provide the framework you use. To do otherwise is an unwise business decision.
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>>I have met a number of VB 6.0 programmers that are doing VB.NET. They have no concept of the value of a VFP like framework and choose to use objects as they did in VB 6.0. What is inheritance? Who needs it? Real programmers write each line of code! In reality these people have no concept of how to save time and energy. I have better things to do than put in 16 hour days because “I write my own code”.
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>>Management likes workers to put in long hours. It shows “dedication, a team spirit, and a willingness to meet company goals and objectives”! In reality it leads to divorce, health problems and failed companies. Management has to understand the value of using proper tools and methodologies. Too often they do not. All too often management has no concept of how to run a business, treat people or manage.
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>>A friend of mine has a great expression, “Come the revolution we are going to do things right this time”! :)
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>Tom,
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>And don't forget..."The revolution will not be televised!"< bg...hoping he remembers the reference >


George;

Yep. LOL!

I am ready for some Chicago style Pizza and Guinness, in either order! How about you?

Tom