>>I can see where the tools provide a much faster way of developing an app >>and I certainly wouldn't want to develop an entire app with hand-coding >>unless it was an incredibly small app. I guess my question is, if there is >>a tool to do the job, why do some people still hand-code stuff at all? >>Let's just limit the discussion to subclassing a control. Is the hand-coded >>version any more efficient? Do the tools add a lot of extraneous stuff that >>would slow things down? > >Hi Gary, > >Sometimes an example is the best explanation. I have a form that I've created entirely in the form designer. So, I've subclassed everything visually. On the form is a radio button group that when chosen shows my frmmoverlists class (modal form -- modification of the one in VFP samples). I don't want to create a formset to include this so I hand coded it when needed as: > >omover=CREATEOBJECT("frmmoverlists") >omover.Show() > >HTH > Thanks for the example, Colin. Gary J. Sibio Mr. Travel, Inc. >>> Please Mr. Gates, can we have our computers back? <<<