Hi Viv

This was doing my head in so much I just opted for the Access/Assign methods in the BizObj property of the container which will assign/request using the Form object directly, rather than holding an additional reference, all works ok now.

Thanks
Kev

>Hi Kevin,
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>You're slightly incorrect on the detail, it's:
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>thisform.BizObj = CREATEOBJECT("BizObjClass")
>Container.ObjRef = thisForm.BizObj
>Container.ObjRef.Address = CREATEOBJECT("Address")
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>Which should work IMO...
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>I agree. But if, as some future point, Container.Objref.Address is a valid reference but thisform.BizObj.Address is not then, ipso facto, Container.ObjRef and thisform.BizObj are not referencing the same object. I thing Sergey suggested that you test this. What was the result ?
>Regards,
>Viv