>id.height/grid.rowheight seems to be rather clumsy - how the hell Fox knows w he >n to scroll if user skips records by DnArrow? There must be something simple. > >I used the clumsy method you described above, and it worked fine. (Of course , >remember you have to subtract the RowHeight and I think something like 1 to 3 p >ixels for borders.) I can dig up the formula I used if you want it. What I wa Don't bother - I'm a mathematician, formula's no problem (besides, I use foxels, so the calc should look very different - the border size should be recalculated into them). >s unable to find was a way to know the TOTAL rows displayed in the Grid. I e nd >ed up doing a RECCOUNT() on the RecordSource, but this has obvious flaws, e.g ., >deleted records are a problem. You can always Set Deleted Off Count For Deleted() NoOfRecs=recc()-_tally Set Deleted &oldSetDeleted This involves moving the record pointer, and if you have a filter, it will lie. The only way I know which will work is Count NoOfRecs=_tally You didn't ask me "what do you need that for", so I won't ask you :)