Thanks for the help Claudio. I am using some framework stuff that I have never tried before and I was getting some error in my startup prg, so I figured I would just try to use the form as the startup. Anyway, I went back to the prg as the startup, got my errors fixed and the form still didn't appear. It ended up being the ShowWindow property. I forgot to set it as top level. It has been a while since I used foxpro. Thanks again for the help.