David,

I'm aware of the consequences. When the oEditableForm dies, so does the toolbar. Since every every form's got it's own oToolBar, it pretty much works as I expect it to. Apart from the not getting the focus thing, that is.

I guess I'll have a look at that code again, but if you can think of something more simple, I'd be happy to hear about it.

>Peter,
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>Your CreateObject() based code isn't doing much but tying the lifetime of the toolbar to the form, when the form goes away it'll take your toolbar with it.
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>>Bearing in mind that only one object, whether it's in a grid or not, can have the focus, that object alone, most likely being the last one edited, is the one that will cause the Tableupdate ()to fail. (Right?)
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>Yes that's what's wrong your last editted control has not committed it's changes to the ControlSource yet.
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>>What's wrong with a This.Setfocus in the commandbutton's Click method, or am I being overly optimistic here?
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>Umm you can't. toolbar buttons don't get focus which requires the code we've been discussing in the thread.