>Hey Fred!
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>>Isn't that essentially what Heisenberg thought that in observing something, you are actually "adding to"/"modifying" the process being observed? In that way, you can never have a complete "circle" since further observations will lead to further additions/modifications. Quite a vicious circle! ;)
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>Not quite. My paper right now is divided in three sections and I've posted the first two. The 3rd section immediatly jumps into something I call "the mechanism of observation" which has quite a bit to do with Heisenberg (and beyond).
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>But the idea of the thread so far mostly revolves around applying Godel's Theorem to nature, something that isn't often thought of as a logical system even though it is.

It seems all systems, no matter how chaotic, revolve around logic. Fractals come to mind as an example. Then, of course, there is human behavior. Logic does not always apply there. ;)

Hey, you still planning on coming to Phoenix next month?