Yet another way would be to have a property at the application level object [assuming you have one] let's call it oCallingForm.

Prior to call the 2nd form just go oApp.oCallingform = thisform
then you can refer to the 1st form from the second form with oApp.oCallingForm.WhatEverMethodOrProperty

Yanick

>Hi! Don't seem to be able to get my head round this since I'm usually using thisform.whatever
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>Why can't I refresh one form from another by typing 1stform.refresh() in a method of the 2nd form?
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>Always tells me that 1stform is not an object?
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>Put me out of my misery