>>>1. You can quit.
>>>2. You can try your best to teach them the value of doing a spec of front.
>>> (Sometimes this is not possible)
>>>3. Take the money and do the best you can with what they give you.
>>> (This method requires you to turn your brain off when you leave the building
>>> are you will become so frustrated that you will revert to item #1)
>>
>>I agree.
>
>Unfortunately, Michel, while your sanity will remain intact with this option, your reputation may not. It is as important to be a good analyst as it is a good programmer; the client expects *you* to provide an automated model of his business. Very few clients map out all of the business rules and exceptions for you, as I'm sure you are aware. By creating an entity model, as a minimum, and a process model and then getting it signed off by the client, you are ensuring that no matter what happens, you have done your professional best.


Are you saying that I'm not professional? Just Kidding. I gave this answer somewhat tongue in cheek. Somewhat....

This type of thing does happen here, but being here for the long run, what I've been able to do is exactly what you suggest. Most of the time. There are those managers that refuse to listen and wondering how they ever got their position does not help. In those cases I think my list is very accurate.

Jeff