that's true, but i believe, that they are realy talking about a beginner. there is no mentioning about a degree, # of years of experience. they talk about growing, etc, etc. so i think unless the cost of living in Birmingham is high, that is a very appropriate pay.

>Actually, with the economy the way it has been, I know a couple of experienced developers (not VFP) that HAVE taken jobs in that payscale to earn whatever they can to get by until something better comes along. The sad part is that once you are back in that payscale it is difficult to compete at a higher level again...
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>>ok, 33k-tax = 24.7k. here in el paso that’s just about 6k over the poverty level. you are in the UK - is it comfortable to live with, or do you just bearly make it?
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>>>I make that 33,544.50 actually. Plus your could reckon on losing approx .25 of that in deductions.
>>>
>>>Nick Mason
>>>
>>>>I don't know if i am missing something here but, 40,000 US dollar for a beginner (junior, no degree) ain't all that bad. or what did i not see here?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Houston;
>>>>>
>>>>>Add the following!
>>>>>
>>>>>Experienced at sweeping floors, emptying garbage cans and cleaning urinals a must! Must have PhD in computer science with 20 years experience and not be over 10 years old. Willing to pay company to work and accept no salary or time off.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have seen some ads almost that bad! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>>From www.JobServe.Co.UK

     Type: Contract/Permanent
>>>>>> Position: Visual Foxpro Developer
>>>>>>   Skills: We urgently require a _junior_ Visual Foxpro Developer. We are looking
>>>>>>           for a _Consultant_ who has the ability to grow and shape the IT
>>>>>>           department. Technically you  should be proficient with Visual Foxpro
>>>>>>           and ideally have exposure to Internet technologies and Networks (XP
>>>>>>           NT,2000). This can move very quickly for the right person and also
>>>>>>           offers a fantastic opportunity to grow and develop within a company.
>>>>>>           Additional responsibilities will be available for a person who has
>>>>>>           all of the above skills.
>>>>>> Location: Birmingham
>>>>>>    Start: Immediate
>>>>>> Duration: 3-6 months +
>>>>>>     Rate: c20k
>>>>>>   Agency: Computer People Midlands (Contract)
>>>>>>  Contact: Matt Spencer-Jones
>>>>>>      Tel: +44 (0)121 643 8501
>>>>>>      Fax: +44 (0)121 632 5996
>>>>>>    Email: mailto:mattspencer-jones@computerpeople.co.uk
>>>>>>Reference: JS/MJ/VFP7
>>>>>>     Link: http://www.jobserve.com/EJ.asp?M=3DM01&J=3DJ858B10CB6266160F