Is ok, I'm not taking them as patronizing and what you're probably picking up from me is my frustration because I KNOW that this should work the way we expect it to.

Ok...now that that's out of the way, it's a base grid, free table as the control source and the control source is at the grid level. Columns 1 - 4 are Read Only (at the column level).

I've tried moving the control source to the column...no good, or at least no help.

Yes, I'm moving off/out of the cell after I change the value. I've moved out using the Enter key, the Tab key and the mouse.

This is vexing me....

>i've never had these events not fire, so i apologize in advance if some of my questions seem patronizing - just trying to help :)
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>so what about the 2nd question: is this a base grid or a subclassed grid?
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>After changing the value are you then moving off the column/row? if you don't move they don't fire [ i apologized already, don't forget :)]
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>>Right now, I've got wait windows in the beforerowcolchange and afterrowcolchange events. Neither is showing. I can change the value of the cell, but not much beyond that is going on as far as I can tell.
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>>>I'd try putting in something other than a suspend, like
>>>activate window "debug output"
>>>Debugout Program()
>>>in your events your trying to use (textbox.LostFocus(), textbox.GotFocus(), grid.AfterRowColChange(), etc.)
>>>
>>>is this grid based on a subclass or is it an instance of the vfp base class? If it's a subclass, try testing on another form using the vfp base class instead and see what happens.
>>>
>>>>As far as I can tell...it never fired. And "As far as I can tell" includes putting a 'suspend' in the event and it never suspended.
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>>>>>what do you mean by "ignored"? - did the event fire?
>>>>>AfterRowColChange() is what I've always used to do this very thing...
>>>>>