gonna try this one as its free :-) thanks
Slán
~M

>Try DbaMgr
>
>Alan
>
>>i know that this is not the best place for this but it is one of the most read sections of the thread. does anyone know of any good tools for using MSDE? i have recently installed it so that i can play with asp.net and even though i can alter the databases from within .net i was looking for an external tool that may offer more functionality/easier interface etc.
>>Slán
>>~M