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>Not trying to slam John, but I get the feeling that he has never been in this position. I'm currently doing some outside work for someone. The project was SUPPOSED to have been 95% finished (yeah, right....shoulda known) and so far the functionality of 3 screens have been completely changed, one of them 7 times, 3 new modules have been added, he will not do ANY testing if I'm not there but he's put it out into 3 different offices for beta testing. And his attitude is "the clock's running...what's your problem?" when I try to explain to him that you don't change major functionality when it's in beta. There are no written specs, and happy boy keeps falling back to the way it was ORGINALLY. It's VERY frustrating. The only reason I haven't quit the project is the fact that I've NEVER quit a project, I've always finished them.
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sounds like a client i showed the door last year.

>Personally, I would add a fourth choice to your list: FOLD/SPINDLE/MUTILATE THE CLIENT.

so that's legal in texas too? i'm in the wrong state...

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>Now he wants me to upgrade it to VFP. And boy will I have him there! He's already been informed that there WILL be analysis and design done. There WILL be specs written and agreed on before I set line of code 1 down.