Matthias,

I remember myself running in the same trap before, but I like to see it this way, it makes me more comfortable.

Agnes
>Hallo Agnes,
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>>The object is not "useless" it still owns it events. For example you may add a CommandButton. You may still click doubleclick or Mouse* it. The CommandButton may still call it's parents methods. But direct access is not allowed.
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>Hmmm - after all I guess you are right ...
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>Matthias